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Too lazy to edit my last post. Noticed this on Melmun's journal, and thought I should link it up too. I'm not into the activism thing, but there's an open letter to LJ about banning pro-anorexia communities. It's pretty scary this kind of shit even exists. It's a bad enough thing by itself, but the internet gives as many opportunities for this kind of stuff as it does for healing resources. Blegh.

On to a meme stolen from [livejournal.com profile] reyverie


A listing of songs from A to Z that I like:

A- All this time (Sting)
B- Bankrobber (The Clash), Blues don't Bother me (Matt Guitar Murphy)
C- Chickenman (Indigo Girls)
D- Dr Who theme song (I have no idea), Downeaster Alexa (Billy Joel)
E- Ev'rybody's Gotta be Somewhere (City of Angels)
F- Feel Good Inc. (Gorillaz)
G- Going to go back there someday (Gonzo/Muppets)
H- Hook (Blues Traveler)
I- Island of Souls (Sting)
J- Jump they say (David Bowie), Jim Henson's Dead (Stephen Lynch)
K- ...
L- Long time coming (Johnny Lang)
M- Moondance (Van Morrison), Mirrorshades (Information Society)
N- New York state of mind (Billy Joel)
O- Oi to the World (the Clash), Only the Good Die Young (Billy Joel)
P- Prophet's Song (Queen), Pressure (Queen w/David Bowie)
Q- Err...
R- Red Dwarf theme (Howard Goodall?), Rock the Casbah (the Clash)
S- Skye (Jeff Greer Band, Soul love (David Bowie) the Soul Cages (Sting)
T- Train in Vain (the Clash)
U- Underground (David Bowie)
V- Voodoo Child (Angelique Kidjo version)
W- Wild Wild Sea (Sting), When you're Evil (Voltaire)
X- I got nothing. I do have one song on the MP3 player under X, but it's not a favorite.
Y- You & I & George (Rowlf the Dog), You can always count on me (City of Angels)
Z- Again, can't come up with anything.

1. Music That Changed My Life

Err... I dunno. My mother listened to jazz late at night when she was pregnant with me, and I've always loved jazz and blues even though my parents don't listen to it. Does that count?

2. Music I Can Listen To On Repeat

There's a lot I can take on repeat a couple times, which Bridge and I've both been known to do when it's inspiring a good drawing.

3. An album I would take on a desert island

This is assuming I had something to play it with, right? Probably either a Billy Joel greatest hits or maybe that double side the Game/a Night at the Opera Queen tape I've got. Something that's got a lot on it.

4. Music that makes me smile

TMBG stuff, Too Much Coffee Man, Avenue Q stuff...

5. Music That Makes Me Cry

Geez. I dunno. Some stuff from movies that were special to me as a kid, like 'Flying Dreams' from the Secret of Nimh.

6. Music I wish had been made:

More Queen stuff? I absolutely love Queen's 'Under Pressure', I wish David Bowie and Freddie Mercury had sung more together.

7. Music I Wish Had Never Been Made:

I try not to listen to that stuff. Bowie's got some bad crack... I don't listen to rap or country.

8. Music I'm Currently Into

I'm always into lots of stuff. I guess I play U2 a lot lately. I like so much different stuff...

9. Music I've Been Meaning to Explore

Geez. I can always come up with more stuff I want to get a hold of. There's plenty of older Billy Joel stuff I'm really not familiar with and I'd like to be.

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wugglyump.livejournal.com
I disagree for various reasons. First of all (fersteval? ;) ), I fail to see how an 'open letter to LJ' on someone's journal entry will do anything but garner attention. It has garnered a lot of attention, but to get a journal suspended, LJ's going to need some kind of abuse report.

You know how I feel about eating disorders. Strongly. And I've looked at a lot of these communities. There are hundreds on LJ, and have been for years. Literally, hundreds. Pro ana is a huge movement. There are pro bulimia communities, too.

Anyway, these communities tend to have the stated purpose of supporting people who are already anorexic by giving them tips on how to not kill themselves at it (not eating protein or dairy of any kind? be sure to take these vitamins...). Do they actually do this effectively? Hell, no. But they provide some form of validation for these mentally ill people, and it's going to be tricky for LJ to prove they're bad. Much trickier than it is for them to point to child pornography laws and say that certain fanworks are bad. Are they going to go to that much trouble? Doubt it.

Starving oneself is no more illegal behavior than self-cutting. I'm sure there are pro self-mutilation communities out there, too. Bad idea, highly disturbing and offensive, but illegal? Not technically.

I know people are mad about fandom suspensions, but this 'gotcha!' game is helping no one. Seriously, it bothers me that fanfiction and fanart is being equated with trafficking in child pornography, too. But pointing at other communities on LJ and saying 'well they're worse!' is...actually pretty juvenile. What's going to happen here is LJ is going to start shutting down everything mildly questionable, and then everyone will be pissed. That'll be fun.

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reymonkey.livejournal.com
There's an abuse report in addition to the open letter, and a lot of very specific against TOS incidents within the community linked. It states it's for support, but apparently their interpretation of support isn't what one would hope for. The reason for the open letter is because the community has been pointed out by LJ abuse report before, and reviewed then ignored. LJ retains the right to suspend journals for activities that aren't specifically illegal, they've said as much on the other post Mel had linked. They claim they will ban communities or individuals for promoting harmful behavior. People with anorexia and bulemia could use some serious help and shouldn't be lost and alone, but this isn't what they need either. I dunno. There's probably better ways to go about it. I don't want everything shut down, but it bothers me that stuff like that exists. I was clicking around on Dirk's lj interests one day, eating being one of them, and what came up was pretty scary. Spreading attention seemed like a good thing because I wouldn't have been aware all that existed otherwise.
Anyways, I'm really groggy and wheezing and coughing inexplicably this morning. I'm not sure I can give any more intelligent response right now.

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wugglyump.livejournal.com
It just seems like it's on the edge of what should be considered for suspension. I've read the case against it, and I'm just not buying it. But that's only my opinion. It's not like I will weep bitter tears for them if they do get suspended. XD

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reymonkey.livejournal.com
Which is probably why it's still around. Anyway, I just posted it so people will look, you'll notice I didn't say 'go sign', because I can understand your perspective and not wanting to take part in what might be emo flag waving.

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wugglyump.livejournal.com
Okay! Fair enough. Discussion is not a bad thing. *HUGS*

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reymonkey.livejournal.com
I guess I tend to assume that most of the rest of the world is as oblivious as I am, and it's good to have this kind of stuff pointed out once in a while.

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wugglyump.livejournal.com
Incidentally, I wasn't calling you juvenile. But there seems to be a lot of finger-pointing going on on LJ all of a sudden.

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reymonkey.livejournal.com
Well why the hell not? I collect action figures and read comics, geez...
Ahem, graphic novels, I mean. Yeah.

I intend to remain juvenile right up through my old age, thank you. ;)

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wugglyump.livejournal.com
I would never call you juvenile, my love. Immature, perhaps... ;D

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reymonkey.livejournal.com
Awwww... okay. Oh! Oh! Plus I lurves to do this Arpy thing on the net!

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wugglyump.livejournal.com
Ar pee? What is this Ar pee? It sounds dorky. :O

Date: Aug. 10th, 2007 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reymonkey.livejournal.com
It is so cool! Pretendy funtime games with fanwanking!

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